{"id":23883,"date":"2019-03-28T14:27:36","date_gmt":"2019-03-28T15:27:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pokerscout.com\/?p=23883"},"modified":"2019-03-29T13:05:32","modified_gmt":"2019-03-29T13:05:32","slug":"how-poker-players-and-cardrooms-could-improve-their-relationship","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pokerscout.com\/how-poker-players-and-cardrooms-could-improve-their-relationship\/","title":{"rendered":"How Poker Players And Cardrooms Could Improve Their Relationship"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The relationship between US poker rooms and poker players has turned adversarial in recent years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">With rewards being cut, professional poker players no longer see themselves as competing against other players. Rather, they now believe they\u2019re competing against the cardroom.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">This relationship between players and cardrooms has become a hot topic of debate on <strong>Twitter<\/strong>. For instance,\u00a0industry veteran <b>Steve Badger<\/b> likened the players to customers and a cardroom to a business in this tweet:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Poker players are weird, part 53,725. In what other businesses do some customers enter with a positive $$$ expected value, leave with more money than they entered, and then expect the establishment owner to give them further rewards or incentives to return?<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Steve Badger (@stevebadger100) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/stevebadger100\/status\/1104920092679135232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 11, 2019<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><b>Michael Josem<\/b>, another industry insider, also chimed in on that discussion. Josem took it a step further, saying that cardrooms should see their customers as partners rather opponents. He reiterated that in another tweet a couple\u00a0of weeks later.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">This extract from the forthcoming book by <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/tylercowen?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@tylercowen<\/a> perfectly describes the change in attitude by online poker players. They former saw online poker operators as their friends, now see them as just corporations.<\/p>\n<p>From here: <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/RulQHuwi6C\">https:\/\/t.co\/RulQHuwi6C<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/4zLV7nruPx\">pic.twitter.com\/4zLV7nruPx<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Michael Josem (@MichaelJosem) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MichaelJosem\/status\/1110138231658553345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">March 25, 2019<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Both lines of thinking are somewhat flawed.<\/p>\n<div class=\"redheader-cta tb_edit_table\">\n<div class=\"tb_editlinks\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"usp-table cta\">\n<div class=\"sr-header\">\n<p>New Players Get A Free Bonus At WSOP.com NJ<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"usp-list\">\n<li>\n<ul class=\"usp-item\">\n<li class=\"usp-logo\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"thirstylinkimg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pokerscout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/wsop648-169-6.png\" \/>Visit WSOP NJ<\/li>\n<li class=\"usp-bonus\">$10 No Deposit100% to $1,000 With Deposit<\/li>\n<li class=\"usp-details\">WSOP NJ ReviewOverall Grade A-\n<ul class=\"usp-item-checklist-alt\">\n<li><i class=\"fa fa-check\"><\/i>Games B+<\/li>\n<li><i class=\"fa fa-check\"><\/i>Support B<\/li>\n<li><i class=\"fa fa-check\"><\/i>Banking A-<\/li>\n<li><i class=\"fa fa-check\"><\/i>Player Value A<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"usp-button\">PLAY NOW<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<h2>An outside-the-box relationship<\/h2>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The poker ecosystem is quite unique.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">It\u2019s a peer-to-peer contest that typically requires a neutral, trusted venue where players can assemble. For a fee, the host venue takes care of gaming equipment, dealers, integrity, security,\u00a0and other issues. That service allows players to concentrate on playing cards.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">For most poker players, their relationship with a cardroom is similar to the relationship between a residential landlord and a tenant. Rather than a completely transactional relationship, there\u2019s a baked-in level of trust, loyalty, and emotion.<\/p>\n<h2>Both parties have baseline expectations<\/h2>\n<p>The<strong> tenant-landlord analogy<\/strong> is particularly appropriate. Consider the following:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>The landlord expects the tenant to treat the property as if it were his or her own home.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>In exchange, the tenant expects the landlord to treat the property as if the landlord lived there himself or herself.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>Being a nuisance to other tenants or damaging the apartment makes you a bad tenant.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>One can be a lousy\u00a0tenant even if he or she always pays the rent on time.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>The landlord is expected to make sure the apartment is up to code and well maintained.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">These same expectations apply to the relationship between poker player and cardroom. Players are expected to treat the staff and other players with a certain amount of respect and decency. Conversely, the cardroom is expected to live up to its end of the bargain, providing a clean, fair and safe environment at a competitive price.<\/p>\n<h2>Trust leads to loyalty<\/h2>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">When both parties live up to their end of the agreement, a good working relationship, one built on mutual respect, develops.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Even if a bigger apartment (or cardroom) is available at the same price, the tenant might stay put because he or she is familiar with and have developed a level of trust with the current landlord.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">In turn, an appreciative landlord might notice the tenant\u2019s loyalty and act accordingly, e.g., not raise the rent when the current lease expires, even if the landlord is raising it in other units.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">That mutually beneficial behavior further solidifies the relationship.<\/p>\n<h2>When the relationship becomes complicated<\/h2>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">However, problems arise when both tenant and landlord, or player and cardroom, believe each other to be friends.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">In any relationship, there\u2019s a point where it becomes easy to take things for granted. The level of appreciation for certain things might decline.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">At that point, one person or party in the relationship is no longer thankful for the acts of kindness from the other party. They simply expect them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Then, the small things that were once easy to dismiss suddenly start to grate. For example, the tenant:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>Might start to push the envelope of acceptable behavior because of the longstanding relationship.\u00a0<\/strong><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>May begin complaining about minor things<\/strong><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>Could suddenly become a nuisance to other tenants.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>Might expect the landlord to be OK with rent arriving late each month.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Conversely, the landlord might:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>Believe the tenant will always be happy.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>Not think it\u2019s a big deal that a loyal tenant\u2019s shower head is leaky.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>Ignore the fact the tenant\u2019s refrigerator is on its last leg and could use an upgrade.\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>Not realize that a rent hike will have a negative impact on the tenant\u2019s loyalty.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Poker players and cardrooms can similarly take each other for granted. A player may, at his \u201chome\u201d room, leave messes for the staff to clean or expect preferential treatment and seating.<\/p>\n<p>A cardroom might offer a generous perk to new players but stiff their loyal crew in the process. These kinds of behaviors are on the path to a soured relationship.<\/p>\n<h2>Players and cardrooms shouldn\u2019t be at odds<\/h2>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Poker players and cardrooms need to reevaluate the way they perceive their relationship and come to terms with what can be reasonably expected from one another.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">It\u2019s not a traditional business-customer relationship. The two groups are not partners.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">However, they need to have a professional, working relationship with one another. Poker players and cardrooms don\u2019t have to be friends, but that doesn\u2019t mean they need to be adversaries.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">To put it plainly, they need to respect one another.<\/p>\n<p>The post How Poker Players And Cardrooms Could Improve Their Relationship appeared first on .<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The relationship between US poker rooms and poker players has turned adversarial in recent years. 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