{"id":29887,"date":"2019-10-10T15:06:17","date_gmt":"2019-10-10T15:06:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pokerscout.com\/?p=29887"},"modified":"2019-10-11T13:45:47","modified_gmt":"2019-10-11T13:45:47","slug":"where-does-stones-cheating-scandal-fit-among-other-notorious-cases","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pokerscout.com\/where-does-stones-cheating-scandal-fit-among-other-notorious-cases\/","title":{"rendered":"Where Does Stones Cheating Scandal Fit Among Other Notorious Cases?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Cheating gives poker a black eye and has been the subject of many social media posts over the last week. Mike Postle, a regular at the <b>Stones Gambling Hall<\/b> located near <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uspoker.com\/california\/\">Sacramento, Calif.<\/a>, is accused of cheating the property\u2019s streamed cash games.<\/p>\n<p>The issue was first brought to light by stream commentator <b>Veronica Brill<\/b>. Postle regularly played hands in highly unlikely scenarios and seemed to never lose in the games.<\/p>\n<p>Brill brought the situation to Stones management. Stones initially claimed an investigation had been conducted and there was no evidence of cheating.<\/p>\n<p>But after Brill went public with her beliefs, players like <b>Joey Ingram<\/b> and <b>Doug Polk<\/b> analyzed hours and hours of poker hands.<\/p>\n<div class=\"redheader-cta tb_edit_table\">\n<div class=\"tb_editlinks\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"usp-table cta\">\n<div class=\"sr-header\">\n<p>Claim Your $30 Bonus At PokerStars NJ<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"usp-list\">\n<li>\n<ul class=\"usp-item\">\n<li class=\"usp-logo\"><a class=\"thirstylink tb_ga_tracking logolinkclass\" href=\"https:\/\/www.uspoker.com\/out\/pokerstarsnj\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"thirstylinkimg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.pokerscout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Screenshot-2019-09-05-at-2.07.28-PM-4.png\" \/><\/a><a class=\"thirstylink tb_ga_tracking\" title=\"Visit PokerStars\" href=\"https:\/\/www.uspoker.com\/out\/pokerstarsnj\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Visit PokerStars<\/a><\/li>\n<li class=\"usp-bonus\">$30 Bonus\n<p>With $20 Deposit<\/li>\n<li class=\"usp-details\"><a class=\"read\" href=\"https:\/\/www.uspoker.com\/\">PokerStars Review<\/a>Overall Grade A\n<ul class=\"usp-item-checklist-alt\">\n<li><i class=\"fa fa-check\"><\/i>Games A<\/li>\n<li><i class=\"fa fa-check\"><\/i>Support B<\/li>\n<li><i class=\"fa fa-check\"><\/i>Banking A<\/li>\n<li><i class=\"fa fa-check\"><\/i>Player Value A<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"usp-button\"><a class=\"thirstylink tb_ga_tracking cta-button i15-cta-button\" title=\"PLAY NOW\" href=\"https:\/\/www.uspoker.com\/out\/pokerstarsnj\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">PLAY NOW<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>They focused on hands where Postle had played and raised with weak <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uspoker.com\/online\/global-poker\/\">poker hands<\/a> in highly unlikely spots. It seemed Postle couldn\u2019t lose and also never seemed to make a postflop mistake. He seemed to rarely, if ever, lose. Polk noted in his video analysis:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cMike just always seems to maneuver himself into the perfect situation.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>After the work of Ingram, Polk, and others, Stones changed its tune. The property announced the streaming would be stopped and another investigation conducted.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">.<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/StonesGambling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@StonesGambling<\/a> is suspending all broadcast of poker play, including live streaming, while we expand our multifaceted investigation with outside experts.<br \/>\nThis investigation will be thorough &amp; detailed. We will report the outcomes when they are available.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 StonesLivePoker (@StonesLivePoker) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/StonesLivePoker\/status\/1179505053884792833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">October 2, 2019<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><span id=\"a_quick_look_at_the_poker_cheating_scandal\">A quick look at the poker cheating scandal<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>Like most streams, the commentary at Stones is on a 30-minute delay. There has been conjecture on how he may have obtained opponents\u2019 holdings, but that remains unknown.<\/p>\n<p>One thing is obvious when watching Postle videos\u00a0\u2013 he appears to look in his lap when his winning hands develop. Many have wondered if he was receiving opponents\u2019 holdings via cell phone from someone in the <b>streaming control room<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p>Others have argued that he possibly had an <b>RFID<\/b> reading device in play somehow. For his part, Postle denies all the allegations and <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Mike_Postle\">took to <\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Mike_Postle\">Twitter<\/a> to defend himself.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve played a unique high variance style my entire poker career and there\u2019s hundreds of players I\u2019ve played with over the course of those 16 years who can verify that I\u2019ve played the same style both online and live that entire time,\u201d Postle noted.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThe difference between myself and others is that I\u2019ve put an enormous amount of time into not just studying the game, but into human behavior, picking up on betting patterns, as well as being blessed with very good instincts.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u201cI have had no other income other than poker. Not a trust fund baby, no rich family, just a guy who was blessed with desire to be the best he could be but not forgetting where he came from, his close friends and family, and that there\u2019s way more to life than playing poker.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2><span id=\"where_does_the_issue_go_from_here\">Where does the issue go from here<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>The cheating scandal has taken the poker world by storm and even gained traction among mainstream media. <b>ESPN\u2019s Scott Van Pelt<\/b> even featured a segment on the issue on <b><i>Sportscenter<\/i><\/b>.<\/p>\n<p>Van Pelt noted what many found troubling. Postle made hundreds of thousands of dollars almost exclusively on low-limit games with a video stream.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI just ask this,\u201d he noted in the segment. \u201cIf any equivalent of a guy showed up to play pickup basketball and never, ever missed a shot for a couple years \u2013 wouldn\u2019t you play in the NBA?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cIf you\u2019re some poker god who almost never lost, who might the right fold or call virtually almost every single time \u2013 if you were this good, why would you be playing in games only with a video feed at a $1\/$3 table at Stones poker room? Why wouldn\u2019t you be in Vegas winning all the money in the world?\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Stones announced that <b>Michael Lipman<\/b> would lead the investigation into the allegations. A former <b>Assistant U.S. Attorney<\/b> for the <b>Southern District of California<\/b>, he also headed that office\u2019s fraud unit.<\/p>\n<p><i>USPoker<\/i> also reached out to the <b>California Bureau of Gambling Control<\/b> and a spokesman noted: \u201cTo protect its integrity, we are unable to comment on, even to confirm or deny, a potential or ongoing investigation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The case took another turn on Wednesday when 25 players, including Brill, filed a lawsuit seeking <b>$30 million<\/b>. The suit was brought against: Postle; <b>King\u2019s Casino<\/b>, which owns the Stones property; tournament director and poker production manager <b>Justin Kuraitis<\/b>; and any other unnamed conspirators in the alleged cheating.<\/p>\n<h2><span id=\"a_look_at_other_poker_cheating_scandals\">A look at other poker cheating scandals<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>The Stones scandal won\u2019t be the last time cheating has been alleged to get an unfair advantage. There have been other incidents through the years.<\/p>\n<p>Depending on the outcome, the Stones scandal could sit near the top because of the amount of attention it\u2019s garnered. However, there have been quite a few incidents through the years.<\/p>\n<p>Those range from chip dumping and collusion claims to multi-accounting claims against some of poker\u2019s best-known players. Here\u2019s a quick look at some other cheating scandals that have gained notoriety similar to the Stones case.<\/p>\n<h3><span id=\"fake_chips_wreck_a_tournament\">Fake chips wreck a tournament<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.uspoker.com\/new-jersey\/\">New Jersey<\/a>\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uspoker.com\/online\/borgata-online-poker\/\"><b>Borgata<\/b><\/a> casino stages several poker tournament series throughout the year. At its <b>Winter Poker Open<\/b> in January 2013, 42-year-old <b>Christian Lusardi<\/b>, of Fayetteville, N.C., was busted for using counterfeit chips.<\/p>\n<p>He faced charges that included rigging a publicly exhibited contest and bail was set at $300,000. Investigators uncovered that Lusardi worked at least <b>160 bogus chips<\/b> into play into a $560 tournament.<\/p>\n<p>The event brought in 4,814 entries for a total prize pool of <b>$4 million<\/b>. It was eventually cancelled with 27 players remaining. Those all received the remaining cash \u2013\u00a0<b>$19,323<\/b> each.<\/p>\n<p>Lusardi had been an early leader in the tournament, and ultimately cashed out for $6,814. However, he was convicted and served <b>eight months in federal prison<\/b> for the racket.<\/p>\n<h3><span id=\"superusers_rock_online_poker\">\u2018Superusers\u2019 rock online poker<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>One of the biggest cheating scandals of the poker boom came from <b>Ultimate Bet<\/b> in 2007. Like the Postle scandal, players investigated a few accounts on the site that seemed to make every move correctly.<\/p>\n<p>One of those accounts was fittingly named \u201c<b>Potripper<\/b>.\u201d The \u201c<b>superuser<\/b>\u201d accounts allowed the player to see all opponents\u2019 cards.<\/p>\n<p>The cheating and use of the accounts was eventually attributed to 1994 WSOP Main Event champion <b>Russ Hamilton<\/b>. He was caught on audio admitting to the scheme and it\u2019s estimated he bilked players of more than $20 million.<\/p>\n<p>Hamilton said in a meeting among company officials:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cI did take this money and I\u2019m not trying to make it right, so we\u2019ve got to get that out of the way.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The whole scenario was even detailed in a documentary titled <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/IT2KzfoEJf0\"><b><i>Ultimatebeat: Too Much to Lose<\/i><\/b><\/a>. A similar scandal also rocked Absolute Poker. It turns out that seeing your opponents\u2019 hole cards makes <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uspoker.com\/\">online poker<\/a> a much easier game.<\/p>\n<h3><span id=\"hole_card_hand_gestures\">Hole card hand gestures<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>One of the best-known cheating cases involves German player <b>Ali Tekintamgac<\/b>. He was first suspected of cheating in 2010 after winning the <b>WPT Spanish Championship<\/b> for \u20ac278,000.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/NYZcPXef4yU\">Video surfaced<\/a> of an alleged member of the poker media using hand signals to give away Tekintamgac\u2019s opponent\u2019s hole cards.<\/p>\n<p>More cheating allegations surfaced following that event. Tekintamgac was denied a seat at the <b>Partouche Poker Tour<\/b> Main Event final table in <b>Cannes<\/b> that same year.<\/p>\n<p>German authorities investigated the allegations and learned that Tekintamgac had several accomplices. In 2014 he was sentenced to almost three and a half years in prison for cheating-related fraud.<\/p>\n<p>Will Postle see a similar fate or will he be vindicated after the Stones investigation? That remains to be seen.<\/p>\n<p>The post <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uspoker.com\/blog\/heres-where-stones-cheating-scandal-fits-among-other-cases\/27129\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Where Does Stones Cheating Scandal Fit Among Other Notorious Cases?<\/a> appeared first on .<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cheating gives poker a black eye and has been the subject of many social media [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":29890,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"link","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"vebbtech_seo_disable_yoast":false,"vebbtech_seo_hide_author":false,"vebbtech_seo_hide_date":false,"vebbtech_seo_hide_factchecker":false,"vebbtech_seo_fact_check_enabled":false,"vebbtech_seo_post_reviewer":0,"vebbtech_seo_post_review_date":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-29887","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-link","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-news-category","8":"post_format-post-format-link"},"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Where Does Stones Cheating Scandal Fit Among Other Notorious Cases? 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